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Protokolltricks statt offener Debatte? Offene Fragen an den Bauausschuss / Beirat zur Sitzung am 27. April 2015

Sehr geehrter Herr Senator Lohse,
sehr geehrte Frau Prof. Dr. Reuther,
sehr geehrter Herr Pohlmann,
sehr geehrter Herr Werner,
sehr geehrte Damen und Herren des Beirats Walle,
sehr geehrte Damen und Herren des Senators für Umwelt, Bau und Verkehr,
sehr geehrte Pressevertreterinnen und -vertreter,

in der Sitzung des Fachausschusses Dedesdorfer Platz am 12.3.2014 berichtete der baupolitische Sprecher der SPD Jürgen Pohlmann als Teilnehmer der Immobilienkommission, die wenige Tage zuvor tagte, auf welche Bebauungsgrößen sich die Immobilienkommission für den Dedesdorfer Platz verständigt hat.

Dort sei beschlossen worden, auf 4.500 qm Baufläche 5.500 qm Bruttogeschossfläche (BGF) zu realisieren. Diese Zahlen seien in Stein gemeißelt, so Herr Pohlmann.
Die selben Kennzahlen wurden auch zu dem Entwurf genannt, den Senatsbaudirektorin Dr. Reuther in der Fachausschusssitzung präsentierte. Diese Zahlen finden sich so auch in dem Protokoll der Fachausschusssitzung vom 12.03.2014.

Auf der Beiratssitzung am 2.4.2014 wurde eine Vorlage der SPD und Grünen beschlossen, die keine Zahlen bzgl. der BGF nennt und den Entwurf, der bei der Fachausschusssitzung gezeigt wurde, befürwortet.

Im nachträglich angefertigten Protokoll dieser Sitzung tauchen unerklärlicherweise 6.500 qm BGF auf?! Diese Zahl wurde aber weder in den Beschlussvorlagen dieser Sitzung, noch im zuständigen Fachausschuss oder öffentlich kommuniziert!

Protokolltrickserei anstatt offener Debatten?

Wie kann es sein, dass innerhalb von 2 Wochen die von der Immobilienkommission beschlossenen 5.500 qm BGF ohne öffentliche Diskussion und Begründung um 20 % bzw. 1.000 qm erhöht werden?
Dies insbesondere vor dem Hintergrund, dass der ursprüngliche Siegerentwurf des Architektenwettbewerbs, der noch am 12. Dezember 2012 einstimmig vom Beirat unterstützt wurde lediglich 4.500 qm BGF vorsah. Dieser Stadtteilkonsens wird hier ad absurdum geführt.

Wie kann es sein, dass ein Beschluss der Immobilienkommission und des Fachausschusses über 5.500 qm vom Beirat ignoriert wird und im Protokoll die Zahl 6.500 qm BGF auftaucht, ohne in der dazugehörigen Beiratssitzung angesprochen worden zu sein?

Regiert nun die Verwaltung die Politik?

Kann die Baubehörde und der Beirat eigentlich Beschlüsse willkürlich durch das Protokoll ersetzen und dadurch Beschlüsse der Immobilienkommission aushebeln?

Wir fordern von Beirat und Baubehörde ein Bekenntnis zu den 4.500 qm BGF des Siegerentwurfes, mindestens aber eine Rückkehr zu den 5.500 qm BGF der Immobilienkommission und dies in den Planungen einzuhalten.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen,

BI Waller Mitte

Protokolltricks statt offener Dabatte

Die Waller Mitte – Platz für Alle

Die Waller Mitte setzt sich als Bürgerinitiative seit fast fünf Jahren für den Erhalt des Dedesdorfer Platz für Alle ein. Die Ziele sind:

  • Gegen die Verlängerung der 2. Reihe der Sandstedter Straße
  • Für eine transparente und verbindliche Bürgerbeteiligung bei der Stadtteilentwicklung / des Platzes und des Freiraumes
  • Für einen gemeinwohlorientierten lebendigen Stadtteil mit zahlreichen selbstorganisierten Projekten

 

Waller Mitte
c/o BSV Vereinsheim
Vegesacker Straße 84 a
28219 Bremen
Email: wallermitte@gmx.de
www.waller-mitte.de

 

 

4.958 Kommentare

  1. Liebe Freunde der Waller Mitte,

    ich versuche erneut eine Antwort zu den angesprochenen Fragen:

    1. Die Immobilienkommission tagt vertraulich und trifft keine Entscheidungen – sie hat also auch keine bindende Wirkung gegenüber den Deputationen und Beiräten, dem Senat oder der Bürgerschaft. Es ist eine Ebene der Verständigung zwischen Senatsressorts, der gesellschaften IB und WFB und einzelnen Mitgliedern der Deputation, um komplexe Projekte zu besprechen und Lösungswege zu dafür zu finden.
    2. Da aber Zahlen kursieren, will ich kurz das Szenario zur Waller Mitte in der Sitzung vor über einem Jahr beschreiben: Vorgestellt wurden zwei oder drei Varianten, die sich kaum oder gar nicht in der Grundfläche der zu planenden Bauten unterschieden, durch unterschiedliche Ausnutzung, Höhe und Lage ergaben die aber unterschiedliche mögliche Bruttogeschossflächen. Diese lagen alle bei ca. 6.500 qm und darunter – nach Bemerken eines Additions-Fehlers lagen sie weniger weit auseinander als zuvor. Die 6.500qm-Variante war davon jedoch nicht betroffen und war also in diesem Stadium des Prozesses durchgehend Gegenstand und dann auch Ergebnis der Beratungen und Beschlüsse, das geben die Protokolle und Beschlüsse richtig – und auch nicht erst nachträglich – wieder.

    Die Grünen halten das Projekt – bei allen Verzögerungen, ärgerlichen zwischenzeitlichen Unklarheiten – für ein gutes Beispiel transparenter Bürgerbeteiligung, und das Ergebnis für einen sinnvollen, tragbaren Kompromiss zum Zeitpunkt der Entscheidungen durch Beirat, Deputation und Bürgerschaft. Entscheidungen treffen nur diese drei parlamentarischen Gremien – das war auch nie anders behauptet, das kann auch nicht anders sein. Dass offenkundig ein anderer Eindruck entstanden ist – nämlich, dass ein Runder Tisch oder Bürgerinitiativen „beschließen“ können, was „verbindlich“ realisiert werden müsse – ist bedauerlich. Dies würde die parlamentarische Demokratie ebenso aushebeln wie die juristische und fachliche Zuständigkeit und Kompetenz der Behörden für die Realisierung.
    – Für die Waller Mitte haben die Initiativen und das Beteiligungsverfahren eine ganz, ganz deutliche Aufwertung erreicht, die ohne Beteiligungsverfahren und Initiativen nicht erreicht worden wäre.
    – Im Laufe des – aus verschiedenen Gründen viel zu langwierigen – Prozesses haben sich die Bedingungen und die Bedarfe für den Wohnungsbau und den Wohnungsmarkt in Bremen verändert. Das ist kein Geheimnis und keine Willensentscheidung – sondern eine anerkannte und vielfach erklärte und geforderte Entwicklung.
    – Dabei spielt die Gemeinwohlorientierung der Bau- und Wohnformen eine wichtige, immer stärkere Rolle. An der Waller Mitte sind die Verfahren und die geschaffenen Möglichkeiten dafür vorbildlich und so umfangreich wie bisher an keinem anderen Bauvorhaben. Auch dies wäre einige Jahre früher (oder mit weniger BGF) in diesem Umfang anders, deutlich weniger gewesen.

    Beste Grüße,
    Carsten Werner

  2. wallermitte

    Zusammenfassung der Beiratssitzung am 27. April 2015

    Vorgeschichte:
    In der Sitzung des Fachausschusses Dedesdorfer Platz am 12.03.2014 berichtete der baupolitische Sprecher der SPD Jürgen Pohlmann als Teilnehmer der Immobilienkommission, die wenige Tage zuvor tagte, auf welche Bebauungsgrößen sich die Immobilienkommission für den Dedesdorfer Platz verständigt hat. Dort sei beschlossen worden, auf 4.500 qm Baufläche 5.500 qm Bruttogeschossfläche (BGF) zu realisieren. Diese Zahlen seien in Stein gemeißelt, so Herr Pohlmann. Die selben Kennzahlen wurden auch zu dem Entwurf genannt, den Senatsbaudirektorin Dr. Reuther in der Fachausschusssitzung präsentierte. Diese Zahlen finden sich so auch in dem Protokoll der Fachausschusssitzung vom 12.03.2014.
    Auf der Beiratssitzung am 2.4.2014 wurde eine Vorlage der SPD und Grünen beschlossen, die keine Zahlen bzgl. der BGF nennt und den Entwurf, der bei der Fachausschusssitzung gezeigt wurde, befürwortet. Im nachträglich angefertigten Protokoll dieser Sitzung tauchen unerklärlicherweise 6.500 qm BGF auf?! Diese Zahl wurde aber weder in den Beschlussvorlagen dieser Sitzung, noch im zuständigen Fachausschuss oder öffentlich kommuniziert!

    Die Beiratssitzung am 27. April:
    Wir haben im Vorfeld der Sitzung eine Stellungnahme abgegeben (s. Anlage). Frau Wedler aus der Baubehörde berichtet irgendetwas von einem Rechenfehler, der erst nach dem 12.03. aufgefallen sei. (Dieser ergibt aber 5.000qm BGF und die die angeblich falsch kommunizierten 5.500qm) Die Zahlen passen nicht zu den in Stein gemeißelten 4.500 BF und 5.500 BGF, das scheint sie und die anderen Anwesenden nicht weiter zu interessieren. Auch zur Historie des angeblichen Rechenfehlers macht sie keine Angaben. Auch nicht dazu, wann und wie dieser angebliche Rechenfehler dann kommuniziert wurde.
    In der Folge des Fachausschusses Dedesdorfer Platz am 12.03.2014haben die Fraktionen von SPD; GRÜNEN und CDU anscheinend peinlich darauf geachtet, diesen angeblichen Rechenfehler nicht der BI, der Öffentlichkeit oder der Fraktion der Linken mitzuteilen. Gerald Wagner (Fachausschusssprecher, SPD) erklärt, dass er als Fachausschusssprecher nach dem 12.03. mit den Fraktionen der GRÜNEN und der CDU informell gesprochen hat, um einen Beiratsbeschluss über die höhere BGF (jetzt 6.500 qm) herbeizuführen. Weder in den Beschlussvorlagen für die Sitzung am 02.04.2014 noch in der Debatte am 02.04.2014 wird die Zahl erwähnt, es wird lediglich auf den am 12.03.2014 präsentierten Entwurf abgestellt. Dieser Entwurf soll 6.500 qm Bruttogeschossfläche zeigen, das wurde aber am 12.03.2014 nicht erwähnt (vgl. Protokoll der Sitzung).
    Zum Mitschreiben:
    Man erklärt, 5.500 qm BGF seinen in Stein gemeißelt (das sind schon 1.000 qm BGF mehr als im Konsensentwurf) und zeigt ein Modell mit 6.500 qm ohne dies zu kommunizieren. In den folgenden zwei Wochen einigen sich einige Fraktionen informell und geheim auf eine Erhöhung auf 6.500 qm.
    Diese Fraktionen beschliessen also eine Erhöhung der Zahlen des Beschlusses von 12.03.2014, während alle anderen (auch wir als BI) der Annahme waren, die Zahlen des Beschluss vom 12.03.2014 würden lediglich bestätigt!
    Lediglich im Protokoll der Sitzung vom 02.04.2014 taucht dann die neue Zahl auf. Die Zahl ist wichtig, da sie die Grundlage für die weiteren Planungsschritte ist. Die nachfolgenden Schritte berufen sich von da an immer auf das Protokoll vom 02.04. und die dort genannten 6.500 qm BGF.

    Wir haben noch einmal auf die offensichtliche und unbestrittene Diskrepanz zwischen Beschlussvorlagen, Beiratssitzung und Protokoll hingewiesen Daraufhin hat der Beiratssprecher Herr Golinski (SPD) sich zur Transparenz bekannt, die er immer schon pflege und pflegen werde. Frau Müller (Ortsamt) wies noch mal daraufhin, dass die Protokolle sehr sorgfältig geschrieben und freigegeben werden und das sie es nicht dulden könne der „Trickserei“ bezichtigt zu werden. Nun, das haben wir getan. Wir sind offen für Vorschläge, wie wir den Vorgang sonst nennen sollen.

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